Spoilers

Episode 42 – Spoilers

Spoilers are Such a Crock!

Okay, now that we’ve got that out of the way… Spoiler alert!

We’re going to spend this episode talking about the Game of Thrones finale, and revisit some of our predictions from Episode 38: Endings. So if you haven’t seen “The Iron Throne” yet, go catch up with the rest of the country before listening to this episode.

Did You Hear About that Game of Thrones Petition?

Season 8 of Game of Thrones has been divisive to say the least. While Michael and Katherine may not have been 100% happy with it, they certainly aren’t among the more than one million fans behind a Change.org petition to have it re-made.

“Get over yourselves, people!” says Katherine.

Michael also thinks the concept is kind of ridiculous. “It’s like a petition to change the result of a sporting event.”

But we both largely liked it.

How Did We Do on our Game of Thrones Predictions?

Prior to the new season, we made a series of predictions about how everything would shake out.

Everyone Katherine liked best ended up living; and both of us were surprised that Arya ended up making it to the end.

Michael gleefully points out that he was right about the Night King storyline being wrapped up by episode three… But Katherine also laughs at his thinking that Jaime would be the true hero of the story (or that Cersei’s child would contribute to a great peace). Oh well.

So… How About That Game of Thrones Finale?

Michael largely liked the last season, and thought it was “appropriate.”

Katherine was impressed that they tied up most of the big loose ends.

We discuss some of the fandom’s nitpicking, but ultimately end up in a similar place.

This is obviously a very different episode of the Such a Crock podcast… But we hope you love it anyway:

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Episode 38 – Endings

Special Edition: Game of Thrones

This Special Edition of our Such a Crock podcast brings you Game of Thrones themes, refreshers, and debates. Because it’s nice and long, we bring you an extra dose of crock too. Just in time for GOT’s 8th season! The most fun CrockCast yet, this episode throws the gauntlet from the very start. Our CrockCasters, Katherine and Michael, explain how Endings are a crock because GOT’s ending soon and what’s a bigger crock than that?

Game of Thrones: Themes

What’s it all about anyway? Let’s get down to it with an overarching theory (or three) and back up these propositions with facts galore. Sure, GOT revolves around ice and fire, love and death, nakedness and armor… We get it. But there are more meaningful themes as well. That’s a given with great stories and this one’s the greatest right now. Think not? Check out next season’s trailer if you need evidence of its mastery.

Endings are certainly a GOT theme. So many crucial characters experience the ultimate ending – death – before their time. In fact, the show is most famous for this . You can point to early Season One when honorable main character, Ned Stark loses his head. Or one just need glance at Episode 9, Season 3 for that notorious hero bloodbath the Red Wedding. Either way, main characters drop like flies on Game Of Thrones. It makes us all appreciate the alive ones that much more.

Katherine thinks it’s essentially about Humanity and offers a Jon Snow quote as evidence. Michael then talks about how Game of Thrones maintains a theme of Chasing Your True Nature. He also puts Jon Snow to work, proving his point. That’s the thing about Jon Snow, sure he knows nothing but he looks so good everybody wants to enlist him anyway.

Endings Answer – Who Will Die?

Let’s just admit that this is what really matters to all of us. Endings finally answer this critical question about our beloved characters. Some are so loved that we may not even accept their seemingly certain death.

This comes up for Katherine during the podcast when she admits she’s still holding out for Tormund to have survived the Ice Dragon’s teardown. Yes, Tormund stood atop the wall when it went down… but perhaps he slid to safety? She’s hoping. That way he can finally woo Brianne so they can make big ass babies together.

But this is just a tiny sampling of the substantial discussion about who will live and who will die in the Game of Thrones. Katherine and Michael get down and dirty to debate nearly every character. From Euron Greyjoy to Arya Stark, Bronn of Blackwater to Daenerys Targaryen and everybody in between. This CrockCast gets detailed and real with as much jocularity as accuracy.

The Proof is in the Endings

Our CrockCasters discuss Game of Thrones characters and events with predictions, refreshers, and hearty opposition. After all, it can be hard to even discern what’s already happened from this show’s gorgeous, rich density. People come back from the dead, people aren’t really even people… and then there’s Cersei Lannister.

Michael and Katherine discuss Cersei more than any other character. Funny part is, they also both think this bitch is sure to die in the end. All men must die. Right? But Cersei most of all.

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Villains

Episode 21 – Villains

Interested in a Crockcast packed with villains? Then this is the perfect episode for you!

Games of Thrones Villain,  Incompetent Cersei

Katherine defines villains at the top of the Crockcast and then Michael jumps into villainy with Cersei Lannister from Game of Thrones. Despite her beauty and power, he hates the bitch; mainly due to her bad decisions and incompetence. However, Michael also says there’s a point in Cersei’s story where she stopped being a “Villain” and shifted into just another character.

At the end of A Storm of Swords George R.R. Martin inserts a section written with Cersei’s point of view. This insight into how she sees things also changes how Michael sees her character. Another way we have seen this POV shift work well is with Gregory Maguire’s Wicked. In that novel we see the villainous Wicked Witch of the West as a beloved hero, thanks to this camera turn.

The Wicked Witch of the West

Villainous Facts About Rats

Katherine doesn’t believe in villains. In her opinion, there is only bad behavior and no such thing as an intrinsically bad person. She does, however, acknowledge that there is evil in the world. It’s just evil actions or events – not due to an allegedly “bad person”.

But she points out an example of a villainous entity we can all agree about – vermin. She digs deep into rat facts and references a Netflix documentary called Rats. Thus, we learn many dirty details about these heinous incorrigibles. Find out more about what makes rats the true villains of planet Earth, listen to  our Crockcast!

Murderer or Munchausen – Either Way – Bitch be Cray

Batterers Beware!

Michael keeps trying to prove to Katherine that real life villains exist, so he pulls out two horrific murder stories from Fox news. One reports on a “soulless 15 year old” and the other a murderous mom. However, tragic these stories may be, they don’t convince Katherine of anything. In fact, they just bring some familiar movies to mind. Both flicks serve as examples of non-villainous humans in history that committed murder.

One Golden Globe winning example, The Burning Bed starred Farrah Fawcett. Inspired by a real-life battered woman, this story changed the way the courts system perceive abused wives. Katherine also mentions a fascinating HBO documentary about a mother murdered by her daughter after years of tormenting the child with a raging case of Munchausen by Proxy. Intrigued? Check out the podcast to hear more about these cases.

Opioids = the Real Villains

The last bit of the Crockcast wraps up with an inspiring story. In a recent New York Times article Katherine learned about marathon running as a method of drug addiction recovery. The only villains in this story are opioids and the heroes are former drug addicts. Who doesn’t love a great redemption tale? Here at Such a Crock we can’t get enough!

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